whether it's their capital gains tax, their income tax, investment tax, any tax. and 95% of the people in the united states of america making less than $150,000 will get a tax break. now, that seems to me to be simple fairness. the economic engine of america is the middle class. it's the people listening to this broadcast. when you do well, america does well. even the wealthy do well. this is not punitive. john wants to add $300 million, billion in new tax cuts per year for corporate america and the very wealthy while giving virtually nothing to the middle class. we have a different value set. the middle class is the economic engine. it's fair. they deserve the tax breaks, not the super wealthy who are doing pretty well. they don't need any more tax breaks. and by the way, they'll pay no more than they did under ronald reagan. >> governor? >> i do take issue with some of the principle there with that redistribution of wealth principle that seems to be espoused by you. but when you talk about barack's plan to tax increase affecting only those making $250,000 a year